The Kenny Parker Show – Part 3
Friday October 13th 2006,
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Wrapping up my conversation with Kenny Parker, he shares some classic BDP stories, including the night that KRS debuted “The Bridge Is Over” at Union Square…. [Part 1 Part 2]

Robbie: So did Kris really become a “Born Again” Christian?

Kenny Parker: For lack of a better term, I’m gonna say “Yeah”. But he’s a little more deeper than that. The thing with Kris is he’s forever evolving. He reads a lot and he evolves a lot, and when you catch him at a particular time, where he’s at at that time is what he’s gonna say, and then another year or two from now he might move on to something else. And he might be “Well, this is me now. I’m this”, and then you might say “What happened to that from two years ago? Oh, you’re contradictory. You know what? Get outta here”. From Criminal Minded to By All Means Necessary, to me that was a completely different vibe for him, for the most part.

But it was all hits, so people were just like “It’s all good”. Kris being contradictory – I think some people say that like it’s cool to boot A-Rod, like after a while you just say it and you just do it. But if you really look at it…to me, you know what’s contradictory? When you come out hardcore with a hoody on, and on your next album you have a suit on and you’re smoking a cigar. [laughs] To me, that’s contradictory. I can name a whole bunch of rappers that was crazy hardcore in ’93, ’94, and then by ’96 they was “Dons” and they had jewelry on. But they get a pass for that, ’cause I guess no one looks at it like that. Even Tupac – to me, Tupac is the most contradictory artist of all time, because he was a lot of different things! He really was a revolutionary, a thug, a ladies man – he was all of those things. So he made all of those records. At one moment he’ll say “Keep Your Head Up” and the next moment he’s like “Fuck bitches! Get Money!”. He’s all over the place, but he gets a pass. Most people get a pass but KRS-One – that’s his curse. He is “Stop The Violence” and that’s it.

I was also interested to know what you’ve been up to? Do you still do beats for Kris?

Yeah. Actually, he’s doing an album with Marley Marl…ironically. I never would have thought the day…now that, in all honesty, that might be contradictory. Marley was never really the problem, the problem was Mr. Magic. It end up being with Marley, and he dissed Shante when she had nothing to do with nothing, but he was like “Fuck it!”, and Shan. I find that ironic. Actually, I have a collection of old stuff that Kris did, like practice tapes and like some of the stuff that you have on your site, like unreleased stuff. Kris used to come to my house and we used to have a little $15 microphone and he used to rhyme onto the mixer and we used to record stuff over raw beats, and he would work-out routines or he’ll say some rhymes that end-up being on other stuff, and some rhymes that people never heard before. I was moving and I found all these cassettes that I had, so what I did was I took some of the stuff and I put it on CD, and I’m about to come out with it and put it out as a little album of all kinda practice tapes and unreleased stuff. I dunno if it’s long enough for a whole album, so I was thinking about adding some unreleased instrumentals that never came out, like “Sound of Da Police” and different beats.

I’ve been working on that project for a minute, I just haven’t had a chance to put it out. I’ve been doing a lotta deejaying in different spots, I haven’t had a chance to really sit down and say “Well let me do this”. But that’s the next thing I wanna do. I got rhymes that Kris said that were supposed to be on Return of the Boom Bap that didn’t…I got rhymes that were supposed to be on Criminal Minded! Little practice tapes that he did with Red Alert that no one ever heard. I’m the only one that has these tapes – I used to steal tapes from his house, back when I was younger. When Criminal Minded was out I was still in college, I wasn’t deejaying or anything. I was in school, so I used to come by the house and he’ll have a tape, and I used to be like “Let me hold this tape”, and then that was it! I’d just have it. [I laugh] So now, a lot of the stuff I have – I’m the only one on Earth in possession of it. Some of it doesn’t even have any hooks – it’s just rhyming, and then he’ll go “OK Kenny, cut that off”, or he’ll start talking and go “Nah, I’m gonna change that, and I’m gonna put this instead of that”. It’s real unedited stuff. He’s just rhyming and we’re just havin’ fun.

I’d buy a copy…that album you did with Heather B – the music on that was great. It was so raw, but the drums were crazy.

Thank-you very much, man. That was my little project. I just talked to Heather about a week ago. We were talking about doing some stuff, she had some ideas and I was like “Yo, let’s just put some stuff together and see how it sounds”. I still have a lot of tracks – I’ll still do tracks until the day I die. I’d talked about doing some more stuff with Kris, but then he ventured off and caught-up with Marley Marl. I guess Koch had some money, so he went off in that direction. [chuckles] But me and Kris was ‘sposed to work on some stuff too – maybe afterwards or maybe a remix. I was always the one that got remixes on stuff. I did a couple of songs for Boom Bap that never made it, I did songs for different albums that somehow got cut-off…eventually Kris’ll get around to me.

Did you do Heather’s album on the SP?

The SP-1200, that’s my machine of choice. What happens is that’s the first drum machine I ever learned how to work, so I stuck with it. And I like how the drums sound on there – you get a harder kick and snare sound for some reason – so I still use it. I’m a little old school with that. There used to be a little civil war – the SP-1200 Vs. the MPC. I remember me and Premier were going back and forth about the virtues of both, and he was gonna teach me how to work the MPC one time, back when they was doin’ Boom Bap. I used to laugh about that, it was like a little war. On one side was the MPC guys, on the other side was the SP-1200 guys. But now the MPC is just so popular that I guess the MPC’s won. [laughs]

They stopped making the SP’s so they’re pretty expensive to get second-hand.

Mine is so old. My SP-1200 is from the 80′s! I still have my one from the 80′s, and actually – I jacked Kris for that! [laughing] All of my equipment I jacked! Kris is real impulsive. You could be like “Aww man, look at these turntables. They’re gettin’ kinda old. You should get some new turntables” and he’ll go “Yeah. Damn, I should!” and he’ll go buy some new turntables and you can go steal the old ones that weren’t really that old! Like the SP-1200 – we had been using it on the road, I used to rock beats in the shows, and I remember when we came back off the road and we was like “You know, this SP-1200′s been on the road, it’s been kinda beat-up” – imagine, we had it for like eight months – it was like “Yo, the SP-1200′s been all over the place! You should get another one” and he was like “Yeah, I’mma go get me a couple of ‘em!”. [laughs]

[laughing] So you were like “Kris, let me hold that old one!”

You can’t believe it. I got speakers, turntables – like four of ‘em, mixers – like five of ‘em, SP-1200, a four-track…I got all kind of stuff in that same mode of “Yo, this is garbage! Get a new one”.

Even though the BDP albums said “Produced by KRS-One”, DJ Doc and D-Nice used to help out as well, didn’t they?

Yeah, well it depends. Let me not speak on Doc because I wasn’t there for DJ Doc. I got aboard after Ghetto Music. I got on in ’89, so I was at the studio a lot of times. I used to come from college and have some time off, so I’d go and hang out in the studio. I was in the studio when he did “Still #1″, but I didn’t even know what I was even looking at, so I’m not gonna comment on Doc. I know he was doin’ a lot of drum programming with Kris at that time, kinda the way that Ced Gee did with Scott [La Rock]. Scott had a lot of records and Scott knew the records he wanted, but Ced Gee is the one who hooked them up. Back then, it was the SP-12, Ced Gee was the only one that had one that anybody really knew! Ced Gee and Scott La Rock were real cool so Scott would have records and he’d be like “I wanna do this and this and this”, and Ced Gee would hook ‘em up. That’s how I understand it, but I wasn’t there. I think Doc was kinda the same with Chris in the early days, like “This is what I wanna do” and Doc would hook it up. Supposedly, D-Nice brought Kris the beat for “Still #1″ – the 45 – and Kris took it and slowed it down and they hooked-up the drums and made the record.

I’ve read about three different people who claim they did the beat for Biz’s “Just A Friend”.

[laughing] It’s a fine line on what you did. Were you an engineer? Or did you actually add sounds? If you added sounds that’s different to me then if I say “You’re the one who knows how to work this machine, so can you engineer this for me?” You’re still supposed to get credit, but it’s a little different if you added sounds and you can say “I did it”. For example, I gave Kris the drums to “Ah Yeah”. It was not like a credit thing – Kris came to my house one day and was like “Yo, I need some drums for this song I’m working on”. I was like “Yo, check out these drums right here”. It was like a Sly Stone record or some obscure record at the time, and I gave him the drums and he said “Aight, cool” and left. And next thing I know…”Ah Yeah!”, that song was out. Or like “Black Cop” – I did the drums for “Black Cop”, and then Kris did the reggae part – which at the time, I thought was wack – and we got in a big argument over that song and I stormed out the studio. I was like “Oh, this is so wack!”.

And then he used it for Mad Lion.

Then Mad Lion got on it and used it again! Of course I got no credit and no publishing, but I just did the drums and that was it. The same thing with “The Jam”, that record he did with Shabba [Ranks]. I gave him the drums for that record. That was my thing, drums were like my thing.

But drums are the record a lot of the time…

I don’t wanna say that, but…right. But I learned how to produce from Kris. I’m not gonna say “I changed his career!” or anything, I’m just saying that some things I was down with. “Hip Hop Vs. Rap”…that record was my music but Kris put it together. It’s a funny story with “Hip Hop Vs Rap” – I was working with Heather B on something in D&D, and I left my a bunch of discs in the studio by accident. So Kris was working on something else, and he came there later on and they was like “Your brother left these discs, give it to him”, and Kris was like “I’ll take it and I’ll give it to him when I see him”. Of course he took ‘em and put ‘em in and was like “Well let’s hear what it is”, you know what I mean? So about a week later, Kris comes to me and goes “Yo, you left this music in the studio and they gave it to me to give to you, but I wanna use some of it. I’m gonna pay you some money for it”, and I was like “What? Some money out the blue? Aight, cool! I don’t care – whatever!”. So he was like “Well I already finished the record”. He asked backwards! He put the drums in there, but the music was different loops that I had left in the studio. He put it together and it became “Hip Hop Vs. Rap”.

A lot of times that’s how songs will get done with Kris. He lets people that’s in the studio have input, for the most part, if respects you. Plus people wanted to help Kris make songs – you want Kris to rhyme on your beats! So you’ll come and be like “Listen to this, I just did this. Listen to that”. Kris would be like “Cool – I’ll rock it!” and he’d put it together and that’d be the end of it! And later on, you might say “Damn, I kinda gave him this record”, but that’s neither here nor there. I mean I can’t be mad that I gave Kris some drums when I stole his SP-1200! So we have a different relationship. If I feel like I needed some money for a particular record, I could come to him now and say “Yo Kris, gimme $3000″. I don’t mind if he came to me like “I need drums” or “Let me get this disk right here so I can use it for this thing right here”. I don’t really care, I mean he’s the one who taught me how to produce! And he taught me how to DJ too! So I’m not really sweatin’ that.

So you’ve been deejayin’ the last couple of years?

We still do shows. I do some shows with Kris, not all the shows with Kris. He moved to LA. He took a job with Warner Brothers back in ’99, he was Vice President of Reprise Records or somethin’ for like a year and a half. So when he moved out to LA, then it started not becoming really time or cost efficient for me to fly out there or fly all these places every time we had a show. Then I started deejaying in clubs around New York, and I’m deejaying in spots now. I’ve been doing a lot of club deejaying, mostly.

Do you just play a bit of everything?

It depends on where I’m at. Some spots I’m at, if it’s like a real hip-hop crowd, then I can play all the good hip-hop stuff. I like to play all the classic stuff people know – Gangstarr, Tribe, BDP, Public Enemy – I like playing stuff like that. But sometimes I’ll DJ for young people that like “Laffy Taffy” or whatever – which I think is the worst record ever recorded, by the way. In the history of recorded music, I think that’s the worst song.

[laughing] What about “Chicken Noodle Soup”?

You know what? I’m gonna say “Chicken Noodle Soup” is even better than “Laffy Taffy”. At least it’s a little girl, and it’s a stupid little record – she’s not coming out trying to say she’s the next dope MC, so I’ll give her a pass. “Laffy Taffy” is grown men. But when you’re deejaying for 20 year-olds, you can’t really play “The Bridge Is Over” because they was like two years old when that record came out! They’ll stop and just look at you like you’re stupid, or they’ll come up to you and ask you “Can you play 50 Cent again?”

As far as your production, I remember one of the first records you did was “I Get Wreck” with Heather B. She had a nice style on that record.

I’m gonna pass that little compliment along to her. She’ll be very happy to hear that too. I just put out two sample records with different samples that Kris used over the years. I had a part one and two that just came out last year, called BDP Breaks. I put some obscure stuff that I only I know he used…I don’t know if it’s sold-out now or what – they pressed maybe a thousand each of ‘em. The guy is really stressin’ me like “Come out with more stuff”, That’s why I was gonna put out the unreleased KRS stuff and all the mixtape stuff that we did, because I think that’s stuff that people would really like to hear, like crazy old rhymes from 1992. Some of it is straight from a cassette – it’s that raw. You ever been to a store that sells all kind of different stuff? They’ll have like pants, little t-shirts and all kinds of stupid shit, and they’ll have a microphone. It’s like “Let’s buy that mic so we can take it home and play around”. It’s that raw sounding, but some of the rhymes are crazy. I have him doing a freestyle of “Criminal Minded” over “Funky Drummer”, that Red Alert was cuttin’ up, and some of the rhymes are different. That’s a tape I stole from when I was in school, like twenty years ago!

Have you got any video footage of old shows? I remember he did that Live Hardcore Worldwide.

He’s been meaning to do another one for years, and never did it. He has all this footage…you know, Kris loses stuff a lot. You ever know somebody who you say “Don’t give them that tape ’cause it’s gonna get lost”? Everybody’s got a friend like “Don’t lend them nothin’!” Kris is like that. Like the footage of the thing with PRT, that whole thing at that lecture. Actually, Heather B was filming that lecture, and then Kris took the tape and you never saw the tape ever again! He’s not real reflective like that. Say he got a DAT with some old song that he never did, he wouldn’t be like “Yo, people might want to hear this”. He’ll just be like “Oh that’s trash. I was a whole different person then. I’m on to something new now”. But I’ll be like “Yo, let me get it. I’ll hold it”. A lot of the breaks he’s used over the years on different records, I end up having them in my possession because he’ll just throw the record somewhere, and that’ll be the end of it!

That whole era, especially around the first few albums, that was just a good era in hip-hop, so hearing anything from that time is always good.

Believe me, I know. But it’s a real uphill battle with that dude. Right now, all he’ll talk about is “I got this next, new rhyme, and a new rhyme style. I’m tryin’ to get this new rhyme out, I’m not even trying to think about ’86 or ’89.” Plus I told him I was gonna put out all this old practice tapes stuff that we had, he was like “I don’t care”. Only thing he said to me was “Give me a copy so I can learn the rhymes again, so maybe I can do it in a show”. That’s all he thinks about. If it’s not pertaining to a show, he don’t care.

Did you get many good photos over the years?

You know who has a lot of photos? Willie D. I never really had a camera. You know what my problem was? I was really stealing a lot of the stuff. [I start laughing again] I never created my own. If someone had something, I’ll steal it. Like tapes or vinyls or equipment – I was that guy, as sad as it sounds. Willie D has a good picture of KRS and Rakim, and I’ve never seen a picture of KRS and Rakim ever.

What’s Willie D doing these days?

Actually he has some group he was trying to shop, I was just talking to him about three months ago. He lives in the Bronx and he has an interesting story too. He’s been rolling with Kris since before “South Bronx”, ’cause B-Boy Records was right next to his house. That’s how they met. He’s not really much one for interviews though.

I read somewhere that ICU and Jesse West are the same person?

No, Jesse West and ICU aren’t the same guy. Jesse West is from the Bronx, he used to be down with Puffy. He produced “Step Into A World”. I was in the studio when Jesse West came in, and he put it on and everyone was like “Yo, that’s the beat right there!” and I’m like “That’s ‘Champ’. That’s regular old ‘Champ’”. He chopped it, but I didn’t see the vision. I was like “It’s aight”, but then the next day Kris was like “Yo, listen to this singing part”. When I heard that over the beat, then I was like “Oh, now that’s hot!” That was one of our biggest songs, that was a huge song for us that year. I’m always the one in Kris’ ear going “You know what? This sucks”. You ever known that guy who doesn’t like anything? I’m always that guy. I usually agree with most of the things he says, but every so often he’ll tell me something and I’ll go “Hell no”, and then it will come to pass and it’ll work, and I’ll be like “Oh, shoot”. Like he told me that he can get people to jump in the air, in 1989. This was when “Pump your fist like this!” – everybody was pumping their fist, that was like getting hype. And Kris was like “I think I can get them more hype. I think I can get them to jump.” I was like “Hell no. Americans? They’re not jumping up and down!” Boy was I wrong! [laughs]

I’m the first person that told him he was a corny rapper, actually. This is in ’81, when he first started rhyming. I was like 14, he was like 15, and he used to make tapes and they were horrible. Like “You’re the worst, man”. He used to be like “I’m dope!” – nah he didn’t use “dope”, I dunno, whatever the word was…”I’m the joint”, we used to say that…

“I’m funky fresh”

[laughs] Yeah. When “South Bronx” blew-up, I was the first person that was like “Yo, you did it!” I can’t believe that this guy – my brother, I mean we used to argue over socks – this guy has a hit record. There’s a record called “Crack Attack”, and that was Boogie Down Productions actual first record. It came out a little bit before “South Bronx”. They’re on the same B-Boy Records, and he had to do that record in order to do “South Bronx”. He didn’t even write it, he just did it. It did nothing, it was just terrible. The first time I heard “South Bronx” I was like “Yo, it sounds like you’re dissing Shan?” and he was like “Yeah!”, and I was like “Yo, MC Shan is dope! Do you know what you’re doing?” He was like [unimpressed] “He’s alright”. I thought he was crazy to diss MC Shan! I remember hearing “Kill That Noise” and seeing Kris, and I said “Yo, Shan answered you. You had a good career, man. ‘South Bronx’ was a good song, and I told you not to mess with Shan!”

So you thought Shan shut him down?

Kind of! ‘Cause that’s the only rhyme that I’d heard him do. I didn’t know he had the whole Criminal Minded album already in his head. I was still in school, so I used to see him every so often, like on the weekends or whatever, and “South Bronx” was a big hit, but as it died down “Kill That Noise” came out and I was like “Damn, it’s over for you. At least you were like a one-hit wonder, you did your thing”, and he’s like “I’ve got this record called ‘The Bridge Is Over’, and I’m like [condescendingly] “How does it go?” He’s like [does the piano riff], I’m like “Aww, that’s wack! It’s over!” He was like “I’mma do it tonight at Union Square. Come to Union Square and I’mma do it”.

I went with him and he did his show, and then he did “South Bronx” and people started going “Kill that noise! Kill that noise!”, like that. Shan had people there, and Kris was going “What y’all saying? Kill that noise? Oh yeah?” I was like “Ohh shit!” and he was like “Yo, I got this record called ‘The Bridge Is Over’ – hit it Scott!” And Scott threw on the beat, and everybody’s quiet, and then he goes “The Bridge is over! The Bridge is over! Budda bye-bye!” and the whole place went to the ceiling! He’s saying these rhymes, and no one had never really said people’s names in a record like that: “Magic – sucking! Shante’s good for fucking!” This is the first time people were hearing…people were stunned. They were going bazerk. People was yelling and screaming. That’s still my favorite record he ever made – because how I got it – and I thought his career was over, and I got it live at Union Square in front of a thousand people going crazy! Every time I hear that record, I think of that day. That was an incredible song. I didn’t know he had that in him. I don’t know if you’ve got any brothers or sisters…

I’ve got a younger sister.

Can you imagine your sister coming out with a hit? And then another hit? It’s unbelievable. KRS was a really weird child. He used to talk about poetry and metaphysics at fourteen. I was tryin’ to play basketball and be cool, and he was like on some other…he had no friends, he was just like a real weirdo.

Hanging out at the library and stuff.

Yeah, and he used to run away from home every few weeks, and the police would find him and bring him back…if you look back on it, you can see how he became KRS, because his confidence…he’s always been ultra confident, but he wasn’t dope! It wasn’t like he was a dope MC – not in ’81! He was just a regular dude trying to rhyme. He used to go to my friends house and make tapes. My friend used to have a tape deck, but he had a dog. So every time he used to play the music, the dog used to bark. They’d make tapes, and Kris would be rhyming and there’d be music playing – like whatever the hot record is of the day, “Catch The Beat”. I remember they used to rhyme to “Catch The Beat”, T-Ski Valley, all the time. “Catch The Beat” would come on, he’ll rhyme over the instrumental, but the dog would be barking in the background!

So now he’ll come back home, be like “Listen to this”. And it’s him rhyming, some corny rhyme, with the dog goin’ “Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof!” on the tape! [We both crack up with laughter] And I’m like “Yo, this shit is horrible! This is the worst shit I’ve ever heard in my life!” and he was like “You’re just jealous! You don’t know!” We’re like typical brothers, we used to argue all the time. So that’s why when “South Bronx” came out, it was like “Wow. You really can rhyme!” And then it was like “The Bridge Is Over” was a completely different style. It was incredible! It’s just amazing to see this guy come from running away from home to this big rap star. I still sometimes can’t believe it.

He changed the way people rhymed even, because everyone was trying to rap like Run-DMC.

Yeah! Imagine his ego and his confidence – he was so confident, that was like “I’m not rhyming like Run. I’m not rhyming like everybody else. I’m coming with this style”. He was almost a fool, you know what I mean? His style was dope, but it was almost like “Who do you think you are to say you’re not rhyming like Run?” But then when you heard the rhymes…see, I didn’t hear the rhymes until “South Bronx”. Then I was determined to steal tapes after that.

Before that, you were throwing the tapes out!

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Update! Heather B. - I Get Wreck (twelve inch, Elektra, 1992]

KRS-One - Black Cop [Return of the Boom Bap, Jive, 1993]

Heather B - “All Glocks Down” video:

Heather B - “If Headz Only Knew” video:

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I think this was the dopest piece in the series so far; it was real cool to get a view into the brotherly relationship between Kenny and Kris. Plus, anyone who had any aspirations of ever *doing* Hip-Hop can relate to the early tape syndrome; one of my friends from high school has some tapes I did when I was first trying to DJ in junior high, and constantly makes fun of me about it.

Kenny’s beats have always been nice with the drums and bass lines, just like the tracks posted show.

Comment by bedouin 10.13.06 @

Yo! This interview is bananas! Thank you so much for creating an outlet for this to be seen and heard. I laughed out loud about how skeptical Kenny Parker was about the “Bridge is Over” and the stuff about the dog barking in the background. That shit is classic. It just shows what a genius in our midst KRS-One is and was. ‘Nuff respect to the Teacha. He will always be a pillar of hip hop.

Comment by Serena Kim 10.13.06 @

great piece.

THIS is history.

Comment by Vik 10.13.06 @

“KRS was a really weird child. He used to talk about poetry and metaphysics at fourteen. I was tryin’ to play basketball and be cool, and he was like on some other…he had no friends, he was just like a real weirdo”

Comment by BK 10.13.06 @

Believe me, I know. But it’s a real uphill battle with that dude. Right now, all he’ll talk about is “I got this next, new rhyme, and a new rhyme style. I’m tryin’ to get this new rhyme out, I’m not even trying to think about ‘86 or ‘89.”

This is what KRS was rhyming about on Still #1. KRS is incredible as is this interview.

Comment by turtle 10.13.06 @

dope shit!! props

Comment by Bang 10.13.06 @

really enjoyed all 3 parts but especially this one…..

hey Robbie, when’s your sis’ diss track coming out?

Comment by The Average Man 10.13.06 @

great interview…i never get tired of reading stuff like this…

Comment by Ryan Proctor / Blues & Soul Magazine (UK) 10.13.06 @

hands down best interview ever. pure hip hop history from the front lines… so wierd to hear the back story from the shit I was listening to when I was 12 and 13….

God bless

Comment by dj mad wax 10.13.06 @

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Comment by I Fux 10.13.06 @

YO PLEASE RELEASE THOSE JOINTS!!!!!!

oh yeah.. I RELEASE THE OLD ACAPELLA SOMEHOW!!!! I hate new mc’s and have none of my own to work with. So let me remix the best so i can listen to it for myself, to just bump in the car.

p.s. Do you have the video tape of Krs making Love’s gonna get ya? or the tape Biz claims to have of krs battling Melle Mel?

Comment by bbatson 10.13.06 @

he still didn’t touch on the train wreck that was kris & ms. melodie. wierd guy? yeah, i’d say. btw, GREAT EFFIN POST DUDE!

Comment by Combat Jack 10.13.06 @

you just reminded me that heather b. is my all time favorite female emcee. word!

Comment by Combat Jack 10.13.06 @

I just dug out her first record from my shelves…it’ll be up here in a minute…

Comment by Robbie 10.13.06 @

Done.

Comment by Robbie 10.13.06 @

“he still didn’t touch on the train wreck that was kris & ms. melodie”

Combat Jack, if anything Kris being married to Ms Melodie is living proof that he’s straight outta the hood

Comment by Kevin 10.14.06 @

great interview Robbie, its funny to see that Kenny Parker was as big a fan of KRS as the rest of us, even moreso because he witnessed the transformation.

my memory of that night at Union Square was chaos. The place was always packed to the ceiling and Kool DJ Red Alert was able to bring in some of the most groundbreaking acts of the time. Public Enemy moved the crowd, I even saw Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff do their thing. Jeff had this shit called the ‘Transformer’ scratch which drove my peoples bananas. When KRS performed he had a wild amount of energy. After you left Union Square you would be ready to rob a bank or something. Thanks for these drops fam, it takes me back to another lifetime.

Peace to Kenny Parker.

Peace to UnKut dot com.

Comment by Billy X. Sunday 10.14.06 @

haven’t had a chance to check this out until now, great work as usual.

Comment by Double R 10.14.06 @

Yo Rob
HOME RUN
u knocked this one out the fuckin park!!!!!!

I take my hat off to you man
as a hip-hop junkie, a writer myself
I cant read 85% of the interviews I come accross these days without suffering from a case of low attention span and be like WTF

but this sir
is history, this is classic hip hop
a version of the stories we never heard

Kenny is one of the coolest cats I know
and I was hanging on his every word

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep doin da damn thing
again I take my hat off to you

keep bringing it like this
I am fowarding this to all teh real heads I know

and Kenny you gotta get on ya grind and release those practice tapes

AJ (AJ ROK/ JVC FORCE) Woodson
professional hip hop junkie

Comment by A. J. WOODSON 10.14.06 @

SHOUT OUT TO JVC FORCE!

ANYWAYS…………….

Guess who i ran into tonight? PM DAWN :)

Well Robbie I did a little interview for you.

Is there anyway I can contact you?

Comment by bbatson 10.15.06 @

One of the greatest interviews ever. Shoud go down in history.

Comment by Travis 10.15.06 @

^ “Combat Jack, if anything Kris being married to Ms Melodie is living proof that he’s straight outta the hood”

TRUE DAT!!!! That was some ghetto ish if I ever saw one. Good point dude.

Comment by Combat Jack 10.15.06 @

Best interview I’ve read in AGES. Nice one on letting Kenny just spit his thoughts. He’s a funny dude.
I’m listening to Still Numero Uno right now, thats the shit. DJ Doc would be a nice guy to see an interview with. He did so much dope production and had hands on a lot of classic records.

Comment by bse 10.15.06 @

Peace to Kenny Parker and Robbie. This shit has been great. This is some Next Level blogging. Praise due.

Comment by Jesse 10.15.06 @

From what I understand Ms Melody looked out for Krs When He Was Running Away and that just had that love bond going, plus its not like duke was Billy D or Denzel. Lol

Comment by Doc Flav 10.16.06 @

Great work Robbie, I’m jealous. Nice work from Kenny as well – if only all hip-hop legends were so loquacious. Try getting Prodigy to string three words together!

Comment by Drewhuge 10.16.06 @

good lord. this is fukin unbelievable!

good work!

Comment by hoss jacobs 10.16.06 @

Amazing stuff. Cheers for hooking us up with this Robbie. Keep up the good work.

Comment by End Level Boss 10.16.06 @

EPIC. i whish these stories could go on forever..

peace and respect to Kenny Parker, KRS, and of course the main man Robbie. keep it up my nig!!!!

Comment by es-won 10.17.06 @

I’ve been waiting forever and a day for a KRS-One Autobiography man. I think this will be the closest thing to that. Dope ass interview… Keep them shits comming!

Comment by Curt McGirt 10.17.06 @

Damn!!!! Unkut.com is my new favorite hip hop spot on the net! I been a huge BDP fan since Criminal Minded. This interview is a jewel for the true hip hop head.

P.S. keep the unkut raw ish comming.

Comment by bxking 10.18.06 @

Totally fascinating!!!

Glad to see Shan got some repsect by kenny- The Bridge is my fav track of all times, and it seems to me 95% of hip hop fans think he got destroyed by KRS. I think it was pretty even, Shan having a edge on this for me (but KRS making ten times as many good records..). It’d be cool to hear about KRS and vs The poet and reactions to Beat Yu Down etc…as well as what happened between KRS and SHan after those records… This site has kept me up all nights too often..

Comment by Snafu 10.30.06 @

good work!

Comment by mordecai 10.31.06 @

Is Kool Kim gonna do anymore posts?

Comment by Ausar 11.01.06 @

Incredible interview, definitely among the best I’ve ever read. I laughed out loud mad times.

Comment by Kai 12.27.06 @

This whole 3-parter is just really great stuff. Kris is most-def one of hip-hop’s all time greats, and learning about the real history of these classic records and situations, and getting a vibe for what hip-hop as a culture was like back then from the inside is the sort of thing that helps reaffirm my love for this music.

Keep fightin’ the good fight, man, cause this stuff needs to be out there.

Comment by Kerda 06.16.07 @

this interview is sooooooo necessary. i thoroughly
enjoyed every moment of reading. yes, krs-1 IS HIP-HOP! like it or not!

Comment by legend 11.15.07 @

I played basketball in college with that negro. Kenny is still a funny dude. I wish him the best.

Comment by Larry J 11.24.07 @

wow thats all ican say. imagine your own brother saying at leats you got one hit of. typical. but for real KRS1 has the stage show. i live in London and let me tell you he totaaly smashed the JAZZ CAFE to pieces. i wish the prince b incident had been caught on video. u just know just ice just had to be a part of that…that cats not
no toy..him king sun you dont want to bump heads with them in a alley. dope interview.

Comment by christopher 01.30.10 @

Yo this is Classic! I know Kris personally, but some of this ish Kenny sayin I never knew about. But I think it captures the essence and the ever evolving KRS in the few words Kenny was able to lay it down in. And also the mindset of both of them growing up as brothas first and then musicians.

Peace & Respect to Rob, Kenny, and my man KRS aka Kris aka The Teacha!!!!

I Am Hiphop!!!!

Comment by Devastate1 11.04.10 @

this 3 part interview is the best interview i have ever read. thanks man, thanks keeny, krs your a lving legend.thanks for ripping it up in australia ths year

Comment by only1dre 04.07.12 @

I know its been a while since this interview got up, but someone mentioned earlier that this is history, and I agree. I grew up on this shit and still to this day I could sit and listen to heads talk about those days, even just sit here and read about it, read about how these records got made and some of the shit that went down. The telling of it is even history itself. Its important. I had to get up and pay my respects. Big up Kenny. Big this site up too for this.

Comment by stzzla 06.13.13 @



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