Comments on: Battle of the Breaks 2 – Remake or Rip-Off? http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:26:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: brewknow http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-19886 brewknow Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:08:43 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-19886 sampleing is how it started lets keep it up, u can ad a little synth if ya want but keep it to tha min...and if ur gonna sample sumtin thats been ripped by another make sure tha next mc does a better or equal job or ellse don't let that sucka have it. Peace! sampleing is how it started lets keep it up, u can ad a little synth if ya want but keep it to tha min…and if ur gonna sample sumtin thats been ripped by another make sure tha next mc does a better or equal job or ellse don’t let that sucka have it. Peace!

]]> By: BINGRIM http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-19082 BINGRIM Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:54:14 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-19082 TRY TO DIG OR* TRY TO DIG OR*

]]> By: BINGRIM http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-19081 BINGRIM Fri, 12 Jan 2007 09:53:26 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-19081 TRY TO DIG FOR BRING OUT YOUR OWN RARE BREAKS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. THEN THE LEECHES WILL PUT IT ON A BREAK ALBUM AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS THAT'S THAT BEAT THAT SO AND SO RIPPED OR THAT'S SO AND SO'S SAMPLE. "I LOVE MUSIC" BY AHMAD JAMAL WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS NAS'S/PETE ROCK'S THE WORLD IS YOUR'S SAMPLE. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO REHASH A WELL USED BREAK LIKE NAUTILUS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE FREAK IT DIFFERENTLY OR SAY SOME INCREDIBLY LYRICS AGAINST IT. "RAP IS AN ART YOU DON'T OWN NO LOOPS, IT HOW YOU HOOK IT UP AND THE RHYME STYLE TROOP"-GURU OF GANGSTARR..I TOOK AN OTIS REDDING TRACK AND FREAKED IT, YOU'LL GET THE POINT IF YOU CHECK ME OUT...WWW.MYSPACE.COM/BINGRIM TRY TO DIG FOR BRING OUT YOUR OWN RARE BREAKS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. THEN THE LEECHES WILL PUT IT ON A BREAK ALBUM AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS THAT’S THAT BEAT THAT SO AND SO RIPPED OR THAT’S SO AND SO’S SAMPLE. “I LOVE MUSIC” BY AHMAD JAMAL WILL FOREVER BE KNOWN AS NAS’S/PETE ROCK’S THE WORLD IS YOUR’S SAMPLE. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO REHASH A WELL USED BREAK LIKE NAUTILUS FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE FREAK IT DIFFERENTLY OR SAY SOME INCREDIBLY LYRICS AGAINST IT. “RAP IS AN ART YOU DON’T OWN NO LOOPS, IT HOW YOU HOOK IT UP AND THE RHYME STYLE TROOP”-GURU OF GANGSTARR..I TOOK AN OTIS REDDING TRACK AND FREAKED IT, YOU’LL GET THE POINT IF YOU CHECK ME OUT…WWW.MYSPACE.COM/BINGRIM

]]> By: Hawkeye http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-17486 Hawkeye Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:47:11 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-17486 @ BK Yo BK check www.mpmsite.com when I'm not the promoter of Too Tuff I'm A&R for that lable. What we release comes real close to what you wish for rap. Except that we release no rap till now. But in 2007 we propably will start with hat too. Peace @ BK

Yo BK check http://www.mpmsite.com when I’m not the promoter of Too Tuff I’m A&R for that lable. What we release comes real close to what you wish for rap. Except that we release no rap till now. But in 2007 we propably will start with hat too.

Peace

]]> By: Dread http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-16083 Dread Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:34:59 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-16083 I need a MC to bring it back on my tracks! I need a MC to bring it back on my tracks!

]]> By: BK tha fullest http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15880 BK tha fullest Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:45:40 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15880 ^WORD. we are old nitpickers, you cant force feed-Re: Jigga, my ni**** (Peace Rev. Jackson) to me that was a real low point. It was people must be like tone-deaf..Sound Library and the net and ebay have all blown up the spot on everything. It happened with records/beats, graffiti, sneakers, etc. You used to have to pay dues, learn the ropes..These days you just can just use technology and/or buy your way into the game. I really hope that whats next is a return to actual instruments, real musicians and real producers much like the days when these samples were being made. ^WORD. we are old nitpickers, you cant force feed-Re: Jigga, my ni**** (Peace Rev. Jackson) to me that was a real low point. It was people must be like tone-deaf..Sound Library and the net and ebay have all blown up the spot on everything. It happened with records/beats, graffiti, sneakers, etc. You used to have to pay dues, learn the ropes..These days you just can just use technology and/or buy your way into the game. I really hope that whats next is a return to actual instruments, real musicians and real producers much like the days when these samples were being made.

]]> By: Hawkeye http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15777 Hawkeye Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:49:41 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15777 Ah fuck it, allways the same. I forgot to tell you to keep on coming with those classic samples flipped into a new format. The kiddies dont know shit and I prefer it that they can listen to some nice new-old shit instead of the newest Triton Preset pre-programed by an broken eurothrash techno producer. Ignore us old nitpickers. Peace Ah fuck it, allways the same.

I forgot to tell you to keep on coming with those classic samples flipped into a new format. The kiddies dont know shit and I prefer it that they can listen to some nice new-old shit instead of the newest Triton Preset pre-programed by an broken eurothrash techno producer.

Ignore us old nitpickers.

Peace

]]> By: Hawkeye http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15770 Hawkeye Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:44:53 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15770 It must have been almost 12.000 posts as I'm a very scrupulous pipsqueak. No I'm not his PR person, I'm just a fan and a nerd if you want and I like to get the whole picture of things. I thought it would be interesting to know of the fact, but most people are satisfied with half of the picture. You right, he used not the horns from Shaft. I just wanted to know if you like the track, now I know LOL !!! Like I said before, happy holy-days. Peace Hawkeye P.S. Oh yeah, I agree with the statement you made in German HipHop mag Juice. "A comeback should not be rushed." It must have been almost 12.000 posts as I’m a very scrupulous pipsqueak.

No I’m not his PR person, I’m just a fan and a nerd if you want and I like to get the whole picture of things.
I thought it would be interesting to know of the fact, but most people are satisfied with half of the picture.

You right, he used not the horns from Shaft.

I just wanted to know if you like the track, now I know LOL !!!

Like I said before, happy holy-days.

Peace Hawkeye

P.S.
Oh yeah, I agree with the statement you made in German HipHop mag Juice. “A comeback should not be rushed.”

]]> By: JBTV http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15766 JBTV Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:03:45 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15766 yes.. yes.. yes.. i saw the 8000 posts u made about it on every blog thsat had ANYthing to do with show me what u got.. (are you his PR person or something?) never heard it b4 that...it was cool. dude used the drums from shaft tho not the horns if i remember correctly. i mean .. i guess u could say he was like 20 years ahead of his time since he hooked both those records up together.. didnt blow me away but it wasnt wack either. yes.. yes.. yes.. i saw the 8000 posts u made about it on every blog thsat had ANYthing to do with show me what u got.. (are you his PR person or something?) never heard it b4 that…it was cool. dude used the drums from shaft tho not the horns if i remember correctly. i mean .. i guess u could say he was like 20 years ahead of his time since he hooked both those records up together.. didnt blow me away but it wasnt wack either.

]]> By: Hawkeye http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15738 Hawkeye Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:21:04 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15738 If you want to listen to "Soulfood" check DJ Too Tuffs myspace page http://www.myspace.com/djtootuff And yeah merry christmas and a happy new year !!!! If you want to listen to “Soulfood” check DJ Too Tuffs myspace page http://www.myspace.com/djtootuff

And yeah

merry christmas and a happy new year !!!!

]]> By: Hawkeye http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15737 Hawkeye Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:19:01 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15737 Yo JUST BLAZE, I know you are a 80s New School rap head. Please tell me your thougts on the DJ Too Tuff produced Tuff Crew jam called "Soulfood". It uses the same 2 sample sources than "Show Me Watch You Got". I dont want to get into something like who-stole-what-from-who-shit, I just want to know if you know the track and what do you think of it. Peace Hawkeye Yo JUST BLAZE, I know you are a 80s New School rap head. Please tell me your thougts on the DJ Too Tuff produced Tuff Crew jam called “Soulfood”.

It uses the same 2 sample sources than “Show Me Watch You Got”.

I dont want to get into something like who-stole-what-from-who-shit, I just want to know if you know the track and what do you think of it.

Peace
Hawkeye

]]> By: victor doom http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15672 victor doom Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:57:53 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15672 'In the scheme of things, there are so many parts of so many records (both used and untapped), that I wonder why there isnt more classics being made.' Because dudes ain't digging as much they claim to be, they got kids going to the 'sound library' for em, and they know less than you. So in the end the game suffers. every sample in Just Blaze's catolog are known, keep digging. ‘In the scheme of things, there are so many parts of so many records (both used and untapped), that I wonder why there isnt more classics being made.’

Because dudes ain’t digging as much they claim to be, they got kids going to the ‘sound library’ for em, and they know less than you. So in the end the game suffers. every sample in Just Blaze’s catolog are known, keep digging.

]]> By: Kai http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15659 Kai Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:55:22 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15659 Oh by the way, Rass Kass did a song off of the show em what you got sample that I think is a waaaaayyy better song than Jay-Zs, lyrically and beat wise. I wasn't crazy about that Just flip, but it wasn't done poorly at all, it had a live feel to it, but Jay's underwhelming lyrics and 'wave' chorus just wont allow me to like that song. And I dont think it was one of Just's better productions, imo. "you aint got enough calcium to have a bone to pick with me/ like a Gracie, I'll choke a nigga out with his own gee/" -Rass Kass As far as the PSA controversy, Just bodied them. The black moon song sounds real wack comparatively and its not a bad song. The PSA beat is just too too much. Its my favorite black album track, along with Lucifer which is pretty incredible as well. Oh by the way, Rass Kass did a song off of the show em what you got sample that I think is a waaaaayyy better song than Jay-Zs, lyrically and beat wise.

I wasn’t crazy about that Just flip, but it wasn’t done poorly at all, it had a live feel to it, but Jay’s underwhelming lyrics and ‘wave’ chorus just wont allow me to like that song. And I dont think it was one of Just’s better productions, imo.

“you aint got enough calcium to have a bone to pick with me/
like a Gracie, I’ll choke a nigga out with his own gee/”
-Rass Kass

As far as the PSA controversy, Just bodied them. The black moon song sounds real wack comparatively and its not a bad song. The PSA beat is just too too much. Its my favorite black album track, along with Lucifer which is pretty incredible as well.

]]> By: Kai http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15655 Kai Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:37:04 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15655 "It’s like the METHOD by which a song is made is makin’ people decide whether they like a song or not… as opposed to what the song sounds like. There’s probably a dude samplin’ his ass off who can’t make a hot track for SHIT right now- should he get an automatic pass over someone who uses keyboards and can create a great track with ‘em?" I tend to agree with your point here,about nothing mattering as long as it sounds hot, but I think there is an important distinction to make about samples vs. keyboards. Its not like I hate keyboards, but there is a legitimate reason people are down on them. For the most part, keyboards produce a synthetic sound. Samples sound so rich because they are sampling records where real instruments were used. The vibe and quality of the music sounds totally different. Not to mention so many hip hop producers use the same keyboards with the same cheezy azz sounds. I hate keyboard horns and tend to not be a fan of keyboard sounds in general, but do end up liking some songs that feature them. But the difference is striking and I think we all know that. As far as a guy like Timbaland, i think hes incredible. His rhythms and layering is crazy. That "My Love" justin timberlake joint is pure perfection to me. ON the other hand, when I hear "Jigga, my Nigga" by Swizz Beats, it sounds horrible to me. It epitomizes everything I hate about keyboard beats. It was a hot song to many at the time, but is it going to have the same staying power over years as a differently produced record? Of course the lyrics play a role in that as well, but I think my point is clear. So method is a reasonable measure to judge a song by in many instances. When I am listening to beats I can immediately hear a keyboard beat and it sounds weak. Music IS vibration, but real instruments give off better vibrations than fake ones. “It’s like the METHOD by which a song is made is makin’ people decide whether they like a song or not… as opposed to what the song sounds like. There’s probably a dude samplin’ his ass off who can’t make a hot track for SHIT right now- should he get an automatic pass over someone who uses keyboards and can create a great track with ‘em?”

I tend to agree with your point here,about nothing mattering as long as it sounds hot, but I think there is an important distinction to make about samples vs. keyboards. Its not like I hate keyboards, but there is a legitimate reason people are down on them. For the most part, keyboards produce a synthetic sound. Samples sound so rich because they are sampling records where real instruments were used. The vibe and quality of the music sounds totally different. Not to mention so many hip hop producers use the same keyboards with the same cheezy azz sounds. I hate keyboard horns and tend to not be a fan of keyboard sounds in general, but do end up liking some songs that feature them. But the difference is striking and I think we all know that.

As far as a guy like Timbaland, i think hes incredible. His rhythms and layering is crazy. That “My Love” justin timberlake joint is pure perfection to me. ON the other hand, when I hear “Jigga, my Nigga” by Swizz Beats, it sounds horrible to me. It epitomizes everything I hate about keyboard beats. It was a hot song to many at the time, but is it going to have the same staying power over years as a differently produced record? Of course the lyrics play a role in that as well, but I think my point is clear.

So method is a reasonable measure to judge a song by in many instances. When I am listening to beats I can immediately hear a keyboard beat and it sounds weak. Music IS vibration, but real instruments give off better vibrations than fake ones.

]]> By: BK tha fullest http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/comment-page-1/#comment-15625 BK tha fullest Fri, 22 Dec 2006 07:12:59 +0000 http://www.unkut.com/2006/12/battle-of-the-breaks-2-remake-or-rip-off/#comment-15625 In the scheme of things, there are so many parts of so many records (both used and untapped), that I wonder why there isnt more classics being made. Flipping the same loops is cool with me, but why is diggin now the domain of purists? I can walk into most any thrift store and come up with something from the .99 cent bin that makes me wonder why the stagnation..I guess it compliments most lyrics these days. BTW, I stil listen to Ultimate Breaks and Beats on the regular..and those gotta be among the most sampled to death beats. Peace to Kon and Amir who were killing it this year... In the scheme of things, there are so many parts of so many records (both used and untapped), that I wonder why there isnt more classics being made. Flipping the same loops is cool with me, but why is diggin now the domain of purists? I can walk into most any thrift store and come up with something from the .99 cent bin that makes me wonder why the stagnation..I guess it compliments most lyrics these days.
BTW, I stil listen to Ultimate Breaks and Beats on the regular..and those gotta be among the most sampled to death beats. Peace to Kon and Amir who were killing it this year…

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