Comments on: It’s A Demo Pt. 1

By: ceedub

ceedub — Tue, 13 May 2008 12:13:26 +0000

I don’tknow what you listen Brian Beck, but I’d rather play Enta Da Stage than songs like “Big Poppa” and “One More Chance” to this day….

By: KQ

KQ — Sat, 10 May 2008 12:17:03 +0000

“thats how i took the weed spot,shot dread in the head/
took the bread and the lamb’s bread”

haha, the biggie and sadat is dope. thx robbie.

By: turtle

turtle — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:52:52 +0000

I agree with Robbie. In a perfect world, Ready to Die would have been Biggie’s 2nd album and his first would be chock full of 92 beats and flows. Same with Nas.

By: Roger Jones

Roger Jones — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:00:19 +0000

I agree Mercilesz,Pete Rock is one of HipHop’s greatest producer’s,I heard that story too,about that”We got the jazz” in Waxpoetics magazine.Pete said,he was playing Q-tip some of his beat tapes,when his phone rang,he went to answer it came back after a while and Tip had jetted withit,Pete sounded heated in Waxpoetics,and said even though Q-tip dropped his name in that”Jazz” track,he never got permission.I love this site.

By: mercilesz

mercilesz — Thu, 08 May 2008 18:03:16 +0000

well pete said puff heard his version and then asked easy mo b to redo it for big and im quite familiar with the story of him being offended that he had to do such an easy loop. puff felt bad and thats y he had pete do the remix on the b side of juicy. not the 1st time pete got jerked. tip heard the jazz at his house and asked him if cl was usin it but pete was just makin it…lke the record was still on the turntable…so tip remembered it and went home and did it himself and made “the jazz”. thats y he says pete rock for the beat yea don’t stop at the end.pete is one of the greatest man 4 real….

By: Jerry Nice

Jerry Nice — Thu, 08 May 2008 17:02:40 +0000

This is one of the best posts yet! Good looking on the demos…The Biggie tracks further staple GOAT status in my book.

By: Robbie

Robbie — Thu, 08 May 2008 11:08:59 +0000

You’ve gotta be kidding me to say that ‘Party & Bullshit’ and ‘Come On MF’s’ aren’t good. All the shit on ‘Ready To Die’ is classic but it would have been good to hear more of his ‘Gimme The Loot’ shit before he went into ‘Big Poppa’ mode.

It’s true that Puff made the superstar he became but I’m sure he would’ve been anything but mediocre even without him.

By: Roger Jones

Roger Jones — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:58:02 +0000

And you know what Mercilesz,it’s messed up then Puff went and included a”Juicy”remix(or possibly a version with the original sample by Pete Rock)on “12″‘s and maxi-cassette singles,I have to agree with Brian and Danjamania,look at all the hot groups that got over looked during that period in the mid-late ’90′s.B.I.G.’s pop shit was an umbrella that kept that kid from falling into obscurity.Just think about it,groups like”10 thieves”,my man Akinelye,Quest tha madd lad,trendz of culture,Ground Floor etc.,man the list is endless.But I love Unkut.com,respect.

By: Roger Jones

Roger Jones — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:48:11 +0000

You got the right idea mercilesz,but that info is a bit off,actually Pete had that”Mtume”sample for another project,his version was harder than the version we were blessed to hear,when Puff decided not to use[Pete's version]he tapped Easymobee to loop the same sample,Mo said in”Unbelievable”Cheo Hodari Coker’s book he was offended that Puff would even have him do such a basic sample.If any of y’all are really interested in what B.I.G.’s-original Ready to Die album would have sounded like if(all) Pete,Premier,and Lord Finesse’s tracks had remained on the final version,pick up a copy of(Doowop’s&DJ Mikenice-Last King of New York)10th year tribute to B.I.G.,it’s worth the bucks.

By: asiko

asiko — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:45:00 +0000

thanks for posting these. at liest “come on” in a proper quality since i didn’t get a chance to buy that 12″. no matter what would have had happened to big if he wouldn’t have run with puff, to hear rhymes like the ones on “another rough one” just reminds me how fresh some things used to sound around that time. you can hear how eager he was to make it big tyme.

i gave the artifacts/brand nubian tune some treatment to make it sound a little better.

http://www.divshare.com/download/4444425-1af

off the topic. does anybody know where i can find a good quality version of extra p’s queens lounge?

By: mercilesz

mercilesz — Wed, 07 May 2008 20:24:29 +0000

pete rock did juicy….they jerked him…puff had nothing to do with that.u can ask him

By: brian beck from wisconsin

brian beck from wisconsin — Wed, 07 May 2008 14:24:35 +0000

Even though Come On is “dirty”, “gutta” and “hard” it’s not actually that good and, like Party & Bullshit, it didn’t really stand out when it leaked in ’93. It pales into near-insignificance when compared to tracks like Ready To Die, Warning, Gimme The Loot, Thing’s Done Changed, Unbeliavable etc.

Thank fuck Biggie got with Puffy and did tracks like Juicy and One More Chance remix and had the Bad Boy staff to guide him on Ready To Die or else he’d have probably been just another mediocre timbz ‘n’ bluntz Brooklyn rapper with generic shouted hooks and shitty sub-Enta Da Stage beats.

By: Robbie

Robbie — Wed, 07 May 2008 09:17:57 +0000

I’m not mad at Puff, him and Biggie were a good team. I just would have liked to hear more of the raw side before he “spread his wings”.

You think Uncle L penned Parrish’s lines on that one Dallas?

By: DP

DP — Wed, 07 May 2008 06:41:29 +0000

good looking on that rampage demo. one of my all time favorites. it took P a minute to get his verse right huh?

who you think wrote that?

By: DANJAMANIA

DANJAMANIA — Wed, 07 May 2008 03:17:31 +0000

I dunno, I just think that had Big been signed by say a Big Beat Records or a Profile or Wild Pitch, he might be some dude that we remember for a couple cool records from back in the day, and not the guy who made the impact that he made. I don’t know that some other label would’ve been able to do as much with him as Puff did. He could’ve gotten signed to Payday or some shit, dropped a straight-up underground album that went nowhere, and ended up another guy on the milk carton. I don’t see the Puff move as such a bad thing as others might, because it’s not like he turned into PM Dawn or some sh*t- even some of his ‘soft’ records are better and had a more lasting impact than a lotta dudes’ hard/gutter records.