Comments on: Philly Producer Says M.O.P Stole His Beat, Lil’ Fame Responds

By: Nic Diamonds

Nic Diamonds — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:23:07 +0000

Lame I got that same sample so It’s pretty common I feel the pain though of any producer trying to get on and somebody jerks em…

By: PR2

PR2 — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:31:54 +0000

So it’s The Supremes right?

By: Mercilesz

Mercilesz — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:46:53 +0000

MOP is scary rap….they yell too much.

By: JUMBOTRON

JUMBOTRON — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:38:43 +0000

^ you are absolutely right… so from all angles, what is the downside of stealing? THERE IS NONE,in the end everybody really knows who did what, that’s why sampling is the dopest shit evah!! Financial compensation is of course a whole separate concern, but nobody’s just gonna be fair and give you that shit either, in the music business you basically have to TAKE everything you get, and if your stomach is not strong enough for that shit maybe you in the wrong game

By: Question Marc

Question Marc — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:33:32 +0000

BUT LET’S PEEP THE GAME FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE:

That cat Kil from Philly will probably get MORE PUBLICITY as “the producer that MOP stole from” than if he was just another co-producer’s credit on an album that most people download anyway (and don’t read ANY credits anyway)…

By: bitter monk

bitter monk — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:08:16 +0000

i’m glad that there still exists hip-hop heads with principles. unfortunately we’re in the underwhelming minority. this type of ish happens every day. alot of stuff is illusions and lies. most people in rap music has abandoned the principles that made rap represent the culture so strongly. rap music has been going down the tubes due to the gangster/street/don-diva fascination. with that type of thing going on, there just simply is nothing honorable about it. there are no codes–it is a lie. why do people get so mad about snitching? that has been an integral part of the street game–more than not tattling.

i digress, but not really. if people buy into the lie that hip-hop music is about ‘the streets’ and define the streets how they’re currently defining it, then what Fame pulled–he stole a song (’87 stick-up kids-Danze-style)–is to be expected. this is what heads celebrate when they cop the DVDs or the hood legends and american gangsters, right?

this rap mercantilism is creating challenges for the culture. we’ll rise, though.

By: BIGSPICE

BIGSPICE — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:48:40 +0000

Someone is taking Ante up a little too far…. As an artist (dj, emcee, graff writer) you take pride in your shit, and you don’t want anyone else jacking it. That is a lame ass move.

By: keatso

keatso — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:42:53 +0000

This is really about the bigger issue of biting. That shit used to be the wackest thing you could possibly do.

By: Hiphop fan

Hiphop fan — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:07:05 +0000

Fizzy needs to shut the fuck up! He stole the man’s beat and he deserves his creit. Period. Every producer want their credit for making a beat, so give the man his credit. It’s that damn simple.

By: Hip hop lover

Hip hop lover — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:03:34 +0000

Fizzy needs to shut the fuck up! He stole the man’s beat and he should give him his credit. Period. Every producer wants their credit for making a beat so the man should get his credit.

By: JUMBOTRON

JUMBOTRON — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:34:49 +0000

the expensive studio climate you refer to in the 70′s was the norm that is true, but hip hop was the underpriviledged’s reaction to that exclusivity from having to pay so much just to express how they felt about a shitty situation, so they said fuck it and straight up took that shit (good for them and good for our ears)… remember when hip hop was like a big fuck you to the establishment, its laws, and the norms of mainstream society in general, remember? that was the shit… Fuck the rich and their properly treated studios….

By: JUMBOTRON

JUMBOTRON — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:15:17 +0000

@ reeves… you know we talking about hip hop here right? Hip Hop IS records, period. Shut the fuck up with that “Here’s an idea, play live instruments on your shit.” That’s what makes shitty hip hop songs. It sucked when Sugar Hill did it, it sucks now. and I’d want to see the beat you come up with in 15 minutes… you ever touched an MPC or ASR.10? have fun at your guitar lesson today duke-o, and leave the outlaw music to the outlaws… Steal sounds straight up yall, Preem’s mouthpiece has said it for years, “nobody owns no loops, it’s how you hook em up and the rhyme style troop.” All Fame did was further this point (and make it even more criminal which is always better for hip hop). The one thing you are right about is that a guy who stole in the first place shouldn’t trip if he in return gets stolen from, ’cause that’s like crime 101, criminal karma. It’s all out there for the taking, and breaking down the copyright laws and bullshit sampling clearances will evolve music (peep Jamacia’s steelo). Guys like Fame are the revolutionaries throwing tea in the harbor for a better tomorrow. And, $100,000+ sho ya right! where was Champ by the Mohawks recorded… uh huh yeah, I’m sure is was some “properly treated studio” GTFOH (do you know the record I speak of and how it has been used to make some of the greatest hip hop over and over again for almost the last 35 years? If that’s not a proper tribute for the original artist, who would have no doubt remained in obscurity otherwise, I don’t know what is…) what does “properly treated” even mean? if you bring up the roots in rebuttal I’ll stab myself in the face…. please take the time to get at least the gist of the culture before commenting in a forum that is obviously steeped in that knowledge….. great post robbie

By: H.R. Paperstaxxx

H.R. Paperstaxxx — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:01:05 +0000

is it just me or does anyone else find it really really really hard to imagine Fizzy Wo on some internets shit reading a fake preemo blog?

Anyways . . .

By: gx

gx — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:43:51 +0000

who cares. if all this kil dude wants is his dues for doing the doing the beat…..done. dead issue. he got more press this way than if it was credited correctly by a mile.

By: italian stanlio

italian stanlio — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:11:07 +0000

i don’t like both beats anyway.
i think MOP put their feet over a big piece of shit like your shoes never really get completely clean again even if you try.

by the way, in my humble opinion the only thing i know for shure is that producers need to work much more on their samples. if your beat is so easy to be remade from the original song, the only one who can be pissed off is the artist that made it.