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The Day I Fell Off

Posted on December 18, 2008December 23, 2019 by Robbie Ettelson

Not me, obviously. But was there a particular incident or album that made you rip all your Word Up! posters off your wall and never listen to a particular rapper ever again? For some, it was Big Daddy Kane‘s Prince of Darkness LP. For others, it was KRS-One taking out PM Dawn (if you’re one of these foolish folk, please fall into your nearest volcano).

Dallas Penn offers: “Only dude I ever had faith in was Ice Cube and I think after I saw Boyz N The Hood I was like ‘Fuck this fake ass rap shit!’. Remember ‘Burn Hollywood Burn’? The next thing you know this dude is doing movies. I learned then that revolution is only the act of revolving – spinning around in the same place.”

Gotty answers: “First artist that comes to mind is Pac, when the whole East-West thing popped off. On a personal level, it pissed me off that he had so much so-called animosity towards someone…but wasn’t doing shit about it except rappin’. He tried to kill you & you made a song about it? GTFOH. As time passed, of course, we learned more of both Pac & Big‘s sides of the story, and even further, we know the end results.”

As for the Unkut take on this whole thing? Even though I was hardly a Slim Shady fanatic, he made some entertaining shit for a while, until I saw something so horrendous that I damn-near tossed my cookies. That’s right – his live performance with Elton John at the the Grammy’s. I won’t deny that Stretch Armstrong‘s favorite musician ever made some classics back in the day when he used to go on year-long coke binges and dress-up in duck costumes, but the EJ who’s seen twinkling the ivories in this clip is nothing more than a fat, boring fruit with a stupid earring. The fact that Eminem does a duet with this fudge is bad enough, but it would almost excusable if it actually sounded half decent. Instead, we were subjected to ‘The Rocket Man’ freestyling piano riffs and butchering the hook of an otherwise awesome song. Just as you think it can’t get any worse, they then proceed to hug and hold hands! From that moment on, David Faustino regained his position as my favorite white rapper.

Eminem feat. Elton John – ‘Stan’ Live:

83 thoughts on “The Day I Fell Off”

  1. MAAD says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Nas – “Oochie Wally” was a shame, but thank God he came back from that….

  2. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    I actually felt Kane fell off with-Taste of Chocolate myself,I mean,”It’s hard being the Kane”was nice…but the rest”.P.E. took a tumble with-The empire strikes black,but those Pete Rock remixes for”Shut’em down”and “Nighttrain”saved the day.And I know I may lose some cats with this but I wasn’t feeling any G.Rap albums after-4,5,6,I mean-Rated XXX was cool,I thought it was foul that Cold Chillin released it the same day that G.Rap released-4,5,6,…and that they used all those tracks from the vaults,and gave that project the kind of push and budget they never gave G.Rap when he was on the label….Crazy.

  3. BIGSPICE says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    I agree with the Nas/oochie wally one. Also, Common and the whole Electric Circus fiasco. Oh yeah, and anything Mos Def did after Black on Both Sides.

  4. B-Double says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    I’m waiting to see how many comments until someone says “808’s And Heartbreak.”

    This is less mainstream, but I was a huge fan of Jungle Brothers until “J Beez Wit the Remedy” came out. I was completely on the “WTF?” tip. After 3 listens to make sure it wasn’t just me, I was off them completely, never to recover.

    “Straight Out The Jungle” is still ill, though.

    http://www.yourfavoritewhiteboy.com

  5. Kiana says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Dallas probably went nuts when Ice Cube did “Are we there yet” and a sequel! On another note, leave Elton John alone! :-)

  6. Mercilesz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    j beez wit the remedy was pretty fuckin dope. It was just over most peoples head production wise. Ur not alone i had to listen to that tape mad times but eventually it started making sense.that joint tip remixed on that album is freakin incredible.
    However the Ultimate fall off song of all time is….ta daaa….STREET DREAMS…BY NAS…WTF WAS THAT ABOUT? AFTER ILLMATIC? cmon…and he never recovered from that bullshit.

  7. Finally says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    PRINCE OF DARKNESS!!!!!!!!

    For the win.

  8. dj blendz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    ^^ hey yo i’d take ‘street dreams’ and ‘oochie wally’ over that horrendous hot mess nas did with ginuwine..wtf was that about?!

  9. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Oh yeah……
    1.K-Solo-Times Up(Letterman was the lone hot track)
    2.EPMD-Business never personal
    3.A tribe called quest-the Love movement
    4.Souls of mischief-No mans land
    5.Gang starr-Ownerz
    6.Group Homes-2nd album
    7.LL 14 shots to the dome
    8.OC-jewelz-(bumpy,DJ Premier & Big L almost saved this project)
    9.EVERY FAT JOE ALBUM after-FAT JOE:DA GANGSTA
    10.Diamonds:HUGE HEFNER

    The sad part is…there is so much more.Damn.

  10. Traum says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    RUN-DMC – Back From Hell
    that new jack shit broke my heart!
    http://www.myspace.com/traumthemc

  11. DRLROCKWELL says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    To many albums, but that Prince of Darkness by Kane was definitely the first time I felt the ground shake from a rapper falling off.

    Another falling off moment was getting The Source mag with Foxy Brown & Lil’ Kim on the cover back in ’96. I just couldn’t believe people actually thought they had mic skills and wrote there own lyrics.

  12. JP says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    what about when feminem’s bodyguards tried to protect him from Triumph the Insult Comic Dog at one of the award shows? what a feg…

  13. Mercilesz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    the saddest part is blendz is right…damn “a tear drops my eye”..
    Roger Jones ur bein a lil too tuff on cats lol jeez what did u like? Souls was a definite fall off the map album
    I kinda love Group Homes second album
    k-solo had cant hold it back produced by sam sneed so i was feelin that but yeah ur right…that album had some joints on it though i cant front…jewelz was crack rock..Jealous ones Envy was freakin ncredible…That joint with Rae and he introduced us to the terror squad i mean the real terror squad Pun and Armegeddon. all in all u do make a case…oh yeah ownerz was such a disappointment.

  14. Kai says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Ice Cube and Nas gave me so many moments, and I just kept giving them chances, especially Nas, as I feel Cube is completely done at this point.

    For Ice Cube it was the predator album where he spits 2 bars of Das EFX’s style “had to get away quigidy quick”. Whats crazy is the only time I have ever heard that song was when it first came out in 1992, but I remember him doing that and being so dissappointed, that the memory is etched in my head.

    Then he went from being in the NOI to making Friday and talking about pigfeet and hogmog in the movie. That was earth-shattering for my young pro-black mind.

    Nas made Nastradamus. I listened to the tape front and back and wanted to give it back to the store I bought it from. The beats, rhymes and concepts were more wack than anything else. I was so disappointed, especially as he was all that we had in the fight against roc-a-fella taking over the game.

  15. BIGSPICE says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    I actually threw my friend’s copy of Nastradamus out of a moving vehicle on the Belt Parkway. He still thanks me to this day.

  16. kevin beacham says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    mine was Ice Cube. I wasn’t a super fan like some of my boys but I thought he was dope. I brought all the albums, even as I started to like them less. Then when he did the whole Wessyde Connection/Common diss thing. Then the hollywood explosion and then still to be in “hip hop” mags with ice grills like he’s still “running the streets”. Plus all of the people who accused him of biting and/or style/song jacking: volume 10, king sun, cypress hill… It was just too much that I gave up and everytime I happened hear something after that I was never convinced to give him another listen.

    To be clear, I have no issue with him being successful in hollywoord. I dont even care he makes silly comedies now but don’t do that then try to convince me you are still a super gangsta.

  17. DOC SAMSON says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    I actually dug Kane’s Prince of Darkness. But it was a far cry from his first 2 efforts so he did fall off in that respect. The second Nas album is OK on its own, but compared to Illmatic, yeah, that’s falling off too. How about Black Sheep? That second album wasn’t a good follow up to that first banger. Hey DAS EFX fell off real hard. The first album was incredible lyrically and beatwise, but the beats on their second album were TRIPLE WACK. WIGGITY! lol Slick Rick too. All his albums after that Great Adventures joint were weak. He fell off too, but he can tour off that first album to this day!

  18. 357 Nyc says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Nice & Smooth-Blazin’ Hot
    Queen Latifah after Black Reign
    Mc Lyte after the Ruffneck shit
    Tony Touch after The Piecemaker

    Jealous Ones Envy is classic!!!!
    the Black Sheep & J Beez were pretty wack though..Din’t like T.I.M.E. either or the Fu-Schnikins after F.u.

  19. Big_Cee says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    “Jewelz” is a classic album to me.
    “Ownerz” is kinda weak, but still great compared to a lot of other shit that came out in that timeframe.
    I also go with “Nastradamus” as far as my biggest dissapointment. My brother and myself started supporting Nas albums after that fiasco.
    “Ni*ger” is pretty dope though plus i copped that.

    uno

  20. Big_Cee says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    haha i meant stopped supporting

  21. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    ROUND TWO….
    1.Terminator X’s-second joint
    2.Intelligent Hoodlum:Saga of a Hoodlum
    3.Steady B:V
    4.Cool C:In the Ghetto
    5.3 X dope;THE SEQUEL
    6.Queen Latifah:Nature of a sista
    7.Main Source:F*ck what you think
    8.Brand Nubian:Everything is everything
    9.MC Shan:Play it again Shan
    10.KRS-ONE:Sneak Attack

    This is really painful,but necessary,and sadly I got enough for a round three.

  22. Mercilesz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    saga of a hoodlum was dope but maybe im just a huge trag fan
    brand nubian had some joints on it like word is bond cipha wit my boys and that joint wit busta…
    3 xdope had the no words remix
    everything else on ur list? Hot Garbage

  23. Brooklyn 'Lo says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    If you ever wondered what a rapper slitting his wrist in studio sounded like Nastradamus was it, the title track was the worst use of an EPMD track ever.
    Big Daddy Kane’s appearance in the Don’t Curse video; the purple shirt and the cast was pretty much the beginning of the end.

  24. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    @ mercilesz-That Trag follow-up was wack w/the exception of that”Grand Groove:remix”and those what’s your name”Skeff anslem and Large Pro remixes-neither appeared on the cassette though.I thought that Brand Nubian:everything was wack because they went”gangsta”because that was the fad at the time,and I was still open on”In God we trust”,I love EST and The Dope crew outta Philly,and that”No words”remix is my joint,…but that project came a little too late and too wack.I got lots more though.

    @ Brooklyn ‘Lo-I couldn’t have put it better myself.

  25. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    Round Three…..
    1.Jungle Brothers:3rd album
    2.OC’s-3rd album
    3.CMW-4th album
    4.Ice-Cube:Lethal injection-(Really Doe was nice)
    5.BRand Nubian:fire in the hole
    6.Special Ed:Still got it made-Ha1Ha!Ha!
    7.BiG daddy Kane:veterans Day
    8.Ice T:Home invasion
    9.P.E.-Muse ik en r mess age-wack
    10.Doug E.Fresh-Do what I gotta do

  26. Mercilesz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    remedy was hot…sorry
    all that other shit ur rite on point. what was with dougie fresh rockin hammer pants and wack ass miss jones singin background vocals….booo
    i cant even speak on any of those other records…O.c made me cry when i hurd that i cant front. that album was a debacle.

    how about UMC’s 2nd one?nobody brought that one up yet.
    oh and cypress 2nd one…another failed attempt.
    oh and tical 2000? what was that?
    oh god i forgot mic geronimos 2nd one…wow

  27. Mercilesz says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    oh yeah camp lo’s 1st one…they had two hot singles and i heard the album like damn “i like these guys?
    oh and D-nice when he had Treach write all his lyrics…cmon dude
    oh and every eazy e project when he started beefin wit dre.not good looks
    oh yeah COMMON ELECTRIC CIRCUS…thats fuckin worse than Street Deams…I have been corrected

  28. Roger Jones says:
    December 18, 2008 at

    @ mercilesz-See,…it’s an endless list of follow-up failures,you came up with some joints i completely forgot.

  29. Dro says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    *Black Sheep’s 2nd – aaaaw i still remember how disappointed i was hearing that one and Dres f*cking solo album ooh lord….
    *O.G.C. – what happened ? wack production on the whole album
    *Souls Of Misheifs 2nd – so damn wack…npt a single good song
    i really liked these groups but after the weak follow ups i shut em down… Bogiemonsters 2nd was wack as hell too
    and ooh off topic but the worst records i ever owned gotta be Me Phi Me and Nubian MOB…aaaaaah

  30. Marc Davis says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    Tim Dog’s Do or Die album with the exception of “I get Wreck”, “Sily Bitch” and maybe one more.

  31. Mercilesz says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    sad part is thats the a and b side of one single

  32. dj blendz says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    how ’bout Prodigy’s fall-off after HNIC??

  33. Hooligan says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    As we’ve covered most of them already, how about Redman and “Doc’s Da Name”? After 3 albums where he could do no wrong this shit felt like a paint by numbers effort compared to the previous material. Red can still rock the mic but I just felt he never hit the same ‘highs’ from this point onwards in his career. Either Reggie fell off slightly or I grew up?

  34. kapitan95 says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    1 llcoolj going back to cali, he still gets afew bangers but overall fell off.
    2. ultra mag after 1st album
    3. bran nubian after pubas solo album
    4. fat joe after j.o.e. album, 1 hit wonder
    5. ice cube as a rapper, still love his movies thou
    6. biggies life after death cant compare to ready to die. 2 much puff
    7. common, gets on the afrocentric shizzz
    8. red and meth after they started making cheech and chong movies.
    9. gangstar jazzmatazz (i still have love for them )
    10. eminem “stan” he went all the way to left)
    when latifah took over flavor unit
    whentribe called quest broke up, tip cant do it alone ex. vivarant thing sucks balls and everything afterwards…

  35. Tray says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    Why hasn’t anyone mentioned Infamy yet? Or what about every Premo beat since, I don’t know, 2004? Oh right, this is the site for people who listen to crap like A.W.O.L.

  36. redstarr says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    Raekwon’s 2nd album, that shit hurt…

  37. BIGSPICE says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    Yeah Q-Tip going solo was a painful time….

  38. keatso says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    “I remember how large SuperRhymes was when he fell off”…
    -It was painful to witness a veteran like Masta Ase stumble in that battle vs. an unknown dude from VA (BoogieMan).
    -De La’s post-Stakes “if you cant beat em, join em” albums.
    -Seeing Kane in the “To be your Man” video was brutal too. Didnt he dress as Dick Tracy in one scene?
    -Nice n Smooth in the New Kids on the Block Video
    -Pharcyde fucking with David Silver from 90210
    -Primo working with “huge fan” Christina Aguilera

  39. Brooklyn 'Lo says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    I agree with redstarr Raekwon’s 2nd cd was complete and utter trash.
    Inspectah Deck’s debut solo had no wins except for the Rec Room single.

  40. Roger Jones says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    @Brooklyn Lo-I thought that,”Show an Prove”track was fire”,Man Deck came with verse after verse.I thought that”Power of God”track was nice too,but yeah…after that Rec joint…it was down hill.

    @Keatso-I forgot those De La soul joints that followed,”Stakes is high”I actually just got back on board with”Impossible Mission”.

  41. turtle says:
    December 19, 2008 at

    Kurtis Blow – Kingdom Blow
    Whodini – Open Sesame
    Boogie Boys – Survival of the Freshest
    UTFO – Skeezer Pleezer (although, I liked Lethal)

  42. End Level Boss says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    When my friend played me the tune that KRS-1 did with R.E.M., I was like ‘What the fuck is this all about?’. I think I remember reading in an interview that he himself looked back at that as a bit of a bad moment.

    And I loved Wu Tang’s first two albums, but they haven’t really done more than a couple of decent tunes since Wu-Tang Forever, and that was 11 years ago.

  43. Bas says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    @ Roger Jones OC Jewelz? Really? It’s my favorite album of all time!

  44. gordon gartrelle says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    Cube fucked up with Westside Connection. Wasn’t a horrible album, but it symbolized stupidity.

    I’ll still listen to Nas, but I realized that he will never make a good album again once I heard I Am.

    Common started on the road to suck-hood when he made “G.O.D.” and “Retrospect for Life” on One Day, but Be was just depressing. This was supposed to be him returning to form after his experimentation, and he was struggled to sniff mediocrity.

  45. cliff says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    Buckshot-BDI Thug

  46. stankon says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    Even though he benefited career wise, Jay-Z Vol. 2

  47. Roger Jones says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    @Bas-Yeah,OC: Jewelz.

    Man I remember OC telling the Source just before”Jewelz”was released,that he was still HipHop…just with the direction of his second album it was time to”eat”(sell-out),and sadly the project got no real attention.Don’t get me wrong,I love OC-“Times up”,Born 2 live”,constable”,but I would never had even bothered with his 2nd album if Bumpy,DJ Premier,Big L were not guest artist.Word Life.

  48. Roger Jones says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    With that said…..

    1.Tha Alkaholiks-4th album
    2.DJ Jazzy Jeff&Fresh Prince:…beat Mike Tyson-Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!
    3.Grand Puba-Understand this
    4.AG:(solo)-The dirty version
    5.Ice-Cube:War & Peace(both cd’s)
    6.YO YO’s-4th album
    7.Antoinette:burnin at 40 below
    8.Kam:made in america
    9.Naughty By nature:Poverty’s paradise
    10.Jeru da damaja:3rd album

  49. Mercilesz says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    i hope u didnt buy all of these Roger cuz damn……some of these u knew was gonna be trash before even listenin to em..ha ha

  50. Roger Jones says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    @mercilesz-Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!

    In this last batch,I bought that Antoinette,Kam,and AG joint.I heard those other joints because I use to work in a record store back then and got first listens to all the new joints that were released.But yeah,pure instincts saved me from most though.

  51. Mercilesz says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    no doubt kid… i always wanted to work in a record store. respect

  52. Mercilesz says:
    December 20, 2008 at

    oh shit though 99.9 percent was fire…if thats any consolation

  53. swordfish says:
    December 21, 2008 at

    grand daddy iu -lead pipe
    fat joe -don cartagena
    geto boys -the resurrection
    tuff crew -still dangerous
    craig mack -operation get down
    keith murray -it’a beautiful thing
    above the law -time will reveal
    mc eiht -we come strapped
    das efx -how we do
    onyx -triggernometry
    …

  54. Woody Allen says:
    December 21, 2008 at

    The day we let in Krunk into Hip Hop that was the end, not to mention ‘down down baby…cocoa puff rap’. This has led to the demise of rap, now we have artist like jeezy, TI,Cham.,mike jones and a whole bunch a bullshit rappers claiming they the king of this and that.This list can go on forever.

  55. Ruestar says:
    December 21, 2008 at

    Uh, second Gravediggaz anyone?
    I’d rather die in a pit full of snakes!

  56. Headlock says:
    December 21, 2008 at

    How terrible Mic Geronimo’s second album was killed me a little inside.
    Second gravediggaz joint too – man i anticipated that one Soooooooooo much. Then it was like “oh you HAVE to be fucking kidding me”.
    The puff daddy remix of step into a world hurt me too. Completely ruined ‘I Got Next’ for me. “i know lets layer a bunch of classic breaks over the top of each other, while i talk like a poof all over it”. Shit still makes me mad.

  57. crusher says:
    December 22, 2008 at

    I was still with Nas up until the Street’s Disciple double LP. Then I was like, “Fuck Nas” but then I gave him another chance with Hip Hop is Dead and then I was like “he’s still putting out bullshit” and then I passed on his latest album completely. I still haven’t heard any of the songs except for that one about fried chicken and the one about Fox News. I’ve completely given up on Nas ever coming out with another dope album and it’s a damn shame because he’s incredibly talented. The only way he could get back to being real dope is if he had some people like the ones who come to this site executive produce his next album, enlisting classic producers and forcing him away from hyper-materializm, corny ass love songs and useless collaborations.

  58. don c says:
    December 22, 2008 at

    i was starting to get suspicious when Bobby Digital came out…but id have to say after hearing Wu’s the “W” I stopped hitting up record stores every Tuesday. Basically every album past 2000.

  59. Dro says:
    December 22, 2008 at

    Craig Mack- Operation Get Down yup you’re right swordfish that was a major let down , i still blame Eric B for that one, he was involved somehow right , and how about Eric B’s solo album ??! wow…and Phife’s – Ventilation no matter how much you like atcq that album was garbage. Last but not least D.M.C’s – Checks Thugs and Rock N Roll….haaa ha w t f ?

  60. boogs says:
    December 22, 2008 at

    how about:
    DITC-Wildlife and pretty much every other release from related artists after that like Show & AG Live Hard, everything by Diamond after Hatred, Passions…
    M.O.P. after Warriorz. Always thought they were kinda hit and miss even before that
    Freddie Foxxx-Konexion
    Rakim’s solo albums
    KRS after I Got Next and that already had some garbage on it
    all Large Pro albums since his first album never really came out
    everything by J-Live after his first album

  61. Brock says:
    December 23, 2008 at

    I never thought there’d be a day that the Ra would ever make an album that sucked … then he went and made ‘The Master’! The first solo album was a winner IMO, but that second LP was awful! Ra’s verse on The Watcher 2 and R.A.K.I.M were a welcome return to form … but then every other new track I’ve heard is a pale shadow of what Ra once represented. He had a good run though … 5 LPs of pretty consistent quality.

  62. DRLROCKWELL says:
    December 23, 2008 at

    Did anybody else get burned purchasing LaQuan’s (“Now’s The B Turn”) album Notes of a Native Son? I still get pissed off by that garbage and it was the only cassette I purchased that I purposely taped over just to forget how bad I got robbed.

  63. Mercilesz says:
    December 23, 2008 at

    u might be on ur own with that one DRL…that video was on some new jack swing ish…I bought Hansoul imagination though…so u know….

  64. Roger Jones says:
    December 23, 2008 at

    @DRLROCKWELL-Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!-I remember seeing that video and almost going out and buying that single.But as mercilesz said,I started to see into the New Jack swing influence.Don’t feel sighted though by that purchase,just look at all the post above,we ALL bought some”wackness”.

  65. Roger Jones says:
    December 23, 2008 at

    @ DRLROCKWELL-*slighted*

  66. DRLROCKWELL says:
    December 24, 2008 at

    @ Mercilesz & Roger Jones – Believe me I took a lot of heat for buying that garbage back then and I deserved it. I really tried to forget about it but reading all of these other posts let me knnow I know that I’m in good company.

  67. Dallas says:
    December 25, 2008 at

    Hooligan.
    Speaking on Red’s album ‘Docs Da Name’… I was at the album release party in this old NYC club called Tramps and some dude was wearing the Redman mascot costume all night just wylin’ out. Redman never showed up though.

    I told this to my homey at DefJam the following day and he told me that WAS Redman in the mascot costume. After that it all made sense.

    Ice Cube precipitous fall from hardened street sage to children’s B-movie matinee foil was too dramatic for my psyche. The rhymes he crafted for NWA’s debut album had me rioting on Virginia Beach at the 1989 Greek picnic.

    I was all in, and then I had nothing.

  68. Daddy Bones says:
    December 30, 2008 at

    Jungle Brothers. I hung my head.

    Robbie, Elton John is the biggest cunt in the world, by the way. No quantity of Bernie Taupin-penned 70s pop classics can surmount just what a cunt he is.

  69. Woody Allen says:
    December 30, 2008 at

    @ Dallas
    I was at that jam back in 01.The ‘Doc Da Name’party, it was f-ing awesome. The chicks thought me and my boy from school were the NERD. They played NORE’s thug out track by the neptunes and bitches started circling us…HHHHHAAAAAAHAHA…special thanks to Akko

  70. newUnkutFan says:
    December 31, 2008 at

    as a life long cypress fan and with less expectations as each album came out it’s a toss up between the rock portion of skull and bones and when i first heard “what’s your #” . in both cases the bar went down a little… The new album coming this new year should exceed. Supposedly primo did a song with them!

  71. jux55 says:
    January 10, 2009 at

    first off i’d like to say that i respect them for at least making an effort to put out material.

    Nas only has Illmatic and Stillmatic, everything else is just bad, album-wise.

    O.C.’s second album was the nail in the coffin. Then he became Mush. MUSH? WTF!!!

    Royce Da 5’9’s career choices.

    Rakim when he told us “Don’t Sweat the Technique”.
    Then he followed up that folly with signing to Dre’s label. A death sentence. Oh…then he performed a “new” song at the VH1 Honors. Painful.

    Onyx- When i saw them perform before the first album dropped and these guys were like 5’4″. You can’t talk all that tough stuff and be a munchkin.

    Biggie- when he got shot. Actually the 2nd album sucked.

    Tupac- when he got shot. He played the fence pretty well when it came to putting out ignorant and thought provoking music.

    50 Cent- exploiting the fact that he got shot.

    Eminem – if i was him, i would’ve make ammends with Elton John behind closed doors but to do it in public and for it to not sound good? bad move. Plus i think he ran out of steam by his 2nd album.

    Dr Dre – when he left his masters at Death Row and Daz got his masters and sued Suge.

    oh yeah its supposed to be about music…

    UMC’s second album

    Butterfly (of Digable Planet)- his solo album.

    Akinyele’s career

    EL P- anything after the Company Flow album just doesn’t sit well.

    Showbiz and AG – one of my producer friends says that Showbiz’s production was crazy at the time but i couldn’t get past AG’s rhyming.

    Anything by Agallah or whatever he wants to call himself.

    Anything LL Cool J did after the Bad album. It just seemed contrived.

  72. keatso says:
    January 10, 2009 at

    “Anything by Agallah or whatever he wants to call himself”
    ^You mean 8off the Assasin from Purple City?
    That reminds me, when he worked with PMD that was a definite disappointment…as was anything PMD did with the E.
    Which leads to the literal falling off of Erick Sermon-when he jumped out that window, right around the height of the gay rumors.

  73. keatso says:
    January 10, 2009 at

    I meant withOUT E obviously. Getting Mine in 09.

  74. C Style says:
    January 16, 2009 at

    1. Kane’s 3rd album. I was In college. I was broke and I scrambled to get the $12 for his c.d. That m.fer still owes me.

    2. Raekwons Immobilarity

    3. LL 14 shots to the dome. I h8 him for that.

    4. Antoinettes 2nd album..broke my young heart

  75. Icewater says:
    February 11, 2016 at

    What’s good This is Icewater former Nubian Mob Chekingin!

  76. Nugget says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    All the joints bcc dropped after 1996 them brothers shattered my dreams with each purchase still got love for the clik…R.I.P Sean Price

  77. Dino says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    Here’s some fall offs that made me question whether the acts had ever been any good in the first place:

    Paris “Unleashed.” After bringing a fresh twist to the “Follow the leader,” Bomb Squad and G-Funk sounds, Paris decided to go full-on generic Bay Area rap with album #4 (both sound and lyrical content). It sucked arse. He’s had a few dead cat bounces since then but has ostensibly rehashed the same G-Funk sample kit and puritanical lyrics ever since. I so want to respect the guy but it becomes ever harder with each new cookie-cutter “conscious” Gangsta rap album.

    Ice Cube: It’s as if after penning “Guerrillas in the mist” for Da Lench Mob, Cube plain forgot how to rap and clean stopped caring. Then the cornball movies and general wackness…

    Ice-T “Return of the real:” To be fair, “Home Invasion” was the fall-off but at least it had a few good cuts. ROTR was a desperate attempt to play catchup with the Mobb Deeps of grimey/keep it real rap. Yawnsville.

    Cypress Hill “IV:” When Muggs went from funky minimalist sample-based production to awful MIDI sound module beats. As with Ice-T, I feel somebody pulled the plug on Cypress Hill’s enthusiasm halfway through the previous album but at least “Temples of boom” was listenable through to the end.

    Common working with The Jonas Brothers….MOP working with Posh Spice and Lyte Funky Ones….

    Kool Keith fell off (or fell into a morass of self-pity) with “Matthew” and “Spankmaster.” He spent the next decade putting out mostly unlistenable garbage- or having studio outtakes released in his name. He’s enjoying something of a second wind now though….

    “The W” ended it for most of The Wu Tang Clan (Ghostface aside).

  78. Caesar says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    To me, falling off doesn’t mean a slight dip in quality, but rather putting out an unlistenable project with the exception of a few songs.

    @Dino Cypress Hill IV was their last decent album but Temples of Boom was an absolute classic. The production on IV was cutting edge at the time. Overall a solid piece of work.

    @ Roger Jones You know nothing about rap music. You picked records that got overshadowed at the time. Pretty much everything you listed was good. Remember, just because it wasn’t eaten up by the masses or not given 4+ mics in the Source, doesn’t mean it’s wack.

    @kapitan95 You also know nothing about rap music. Pretty much everything you listed is a certified classic. Again, just because something didn’t sell when it came out, does not mean it’s wack.

  79. Caesar says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    @jux55

    you are a certified faggot. You’ve been jacking off to pictures of LL Cool J your entire life. You should accept your homosexuality and live right.

    “Biggie- when he got shot. Actually the 2nd album sucked.”

    You have no class.

    “Anything by Agallah or whatever he wants to call himself.”

    lol, you can’t comprehend good production when you hear it. There’s too many layers for you to understand.

    “Showbiz and AG – one of my producer friends says that Showbiz’s production was crazy at the time but i couldn’t get past AG’s rhyming.”

    Wow, you probably masturbate to Father MC’s album cover.

  80. Dino says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    Killah Priest “View from Masada:” much like Cypress Hill’s “IV,” cornball keyboard tracks and “mystical” shtick well past its bestby date. Another nail in the Wu/Wu affiliate coffin.

  81. Caesar says:
    May 22, 2016 at

    Dino, you are a stone cold faggot.

  82. Dino says:
    May 23, 2016 at

    “a stone cold faggot”? Surely faggots are flaming?

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